The Disclosure Machine — UFOs, the File Drop, and the Men Who Can't Afford to Talk

For seventy years, if you said "UFO" out loud, you were a punchline — a crank in a tinfoil hat photographing hubcaps. Then, quietly, the laughter stopped. 

The Pentagon admitted its secret program. Decorated Navy pilots went on the record. And in 2026, the US government did the unthinkable: it opened a public database — PURSUE — and started dropping declassified files. Videos. Photographs. Hundreds of encounters. Over a billion people logged on to look.

But this is The Evident Conspiracy Files, so tonight Mark and Grim ask the question hiding under the headlines. Not "are UFOs real" — but why, after seventy years of calling you mad for asking, are they suddenly, kindly, deciding to show you some of it? And what's in the files they didn't release?

We follow whistleblower David Grusch — a decorated intelligence officer who testified under oath to "non-human intelligence," recovered craft, and billions hidden from Congress in secret "slush funds" — and weigh him honestly against the Pentagon's flat denial. We sit with the black-budget possibility that half the "aliens" are ours: secret human craft, with the UFO myth as the perfect seventy-year camouflage. We meet the scientists who stopped waiting for permission — Avi Loeb's Galileo Project, AI-powered sky scanners, satellite anomaly tracking, and the hunt through a century of star photographs for lights that shouldn't vanish.

And we land on the real lock on the vault. Not ray guns. Not men in black. A pension. An oath. Thirty years of service you lose the day you talk. The greatest question our species has ever asked — held shut by a mortgage and a signature.

Strip out every alien claim, and you're still left with a real, documented, ongoing conspiracy: about who is allowed to know, and who decides.

From the shadows. Stay curious, stay sceptical, and keep watching the skies.

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SPEAKER_06 0:02

Seventy years of laughter. Then the files dropped. What's still in the drawer?

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Hello, you gullible little specks of stardust. It's me, Grim. So, after 70 years of calling you a lunatic for asking, the Pentagon has gone and put the UFO files on a website. A website like a takeaway menu. Aliens now available for collection. And a billion of you logged straight on, didn't you? Course you did. You clicked spaceship faster than you've ever clicked, except cookies. But here's old Grimm's question flesh bags. If they've genuinely got a dead alien in a freezer in the desert, why are the blokes who've seen it all keeping stum? Mind control. Men in black? Nope. It's the pension. That's it. That's the big secret. The truth about life in the universe, locked in a drawer. Because Kevin from Intelligence doesn't fancy losing his golf membership and his conservatory. The evident conspiracy files. Watch the skies.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

If you said the word out loud, flying saucer, UFO, Little Green Men, you were a punchline, a crank, a man in a tinfoil hat photographing hubcaps thrown across the sky. The subject was radioactive. It ended careers. It was the one thing serious people did not touch. And then quietly, over the last few years, something extraordinary happened. The laughter stopped. The Pentagon admitted it had a secret programme to study them. Navy pilots went on the record, decorated credible offices, describing objects that outflew everything in the American arsenal. Congress started holding hearings, and now, in 2026, the United States government has done something that would have been unthinkable in your parents' lifetime. It has opened a public website, a government database, with an official name, the Pursue System, and started releasing declassified files, videos, photographs, incident reports, hundreds of encounters, and over a billion people, worldwide, have logged on to look. Welcome Shadow Dwellers to the Evident Conspiracy Files. I'm Mark Mayhew, and tonight we ask the questions hiding underneath the headlines. Because the interesting thing about this disclosure is not what they've shown us, it's what they haven't. Tonight, the great file drop, the whistleblowers risking everything, the scientists who've stopped waiting for permission and started pointing telescopes at the sky themselves, and the quiet, devastating reason that the men who know the most may take the secret to their graves. It comes down, as so much does, to money. We travel through the shadows until the tinfoil catches fire.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Ooh, spacemen. Finally. Hello again, you gullible little specks of stardust. It's me, Grim. And I have to say, I've been looking forward to this one for about 70 years, because I have watched your entire species do the most magnificent about face on it. And it's been hilarious to witness from the cheap seats. For decades, if you said you saw a UFO, you got laughed out of the pub, sacked from your job, and possibly a nice quiet visit from a man in a gray suit. And now, now it's the Pentagon putting the videos up on a website, and congressmen on the telly demanding answers, and everyone nodding along very seriously. Same footage, same phenomenon. The only thing that changed is that the people in charge decided it was finally time for you to know a little bit. And that, fleshbags, is the bit that should make the hair stand up on your soft little necks. Not are UFOs real. The real question is, after 70 years of calling you mad for asking, why are they suddenly, kindly deciding to tell you what changed? And more importantly, what are they still not saying? Take us in, Mark.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Let's start with what's actually, verifiably, on the table right now, because this is happening as we record. And it's real. In 2026, following a presidential directive, the Pentagon launched something called Pursue, the presidential unsealing and reporting system for UAP encounters. UAP, by the way, is the modern, respectable term, unidentified, anomalous phenomena. They retired UFO because it carried too much baggage. Too many hubcaps and hoaxes. New name clean slate. And through pursue. They've been releasing tranches of declassified material. The first batch alone, over a hundred and sixty files, covering more than four hundred incidents going back decades. Military mission reports from active combat zones. Gun camera footage, NASA astronaut transcripts from the Apollo and Skylab missions, FBI photographs, State Department cables, encounter videos, dozens of them, showing objects doing things that, by the official descriptions, our aircraft simply cannot do. Instant acceleration, no wings, no exhaust, no visible means of propulsion, movement that would turn a human pilot to paste. Now, on its face, this is staggering. The most secretive military apparatus on Earth opening its files to the public. Transparency at last. And I want to give that its due, it is genuinely unprecedented, and the people who fought for it fought hard. But this is the evident conspiracy files, so we have to ask the question that spoils the party. When a government that has hidden something for 70 years suddenly decides to hand you a carefully selected pile of it, are you looking at disclosure? Or are you looking at a magician's other hand?

SPEAKER_01 8:00

A government voluntarily releasing secret files, let that sit with you for a second, you trusting little moon moths, because in all my long years I've learned that these people do not give you anything. Not a thing. Not out of kindness, not out of honesty, not ever. So when they suddenly start handing out the good stuff on a website, one of two things is true. Either somebody forced their hand, and they're releasing the least bad version they can get away with before it leaks anyway. Or, and this is the one that tickles me. They're showing you exactly what they want you to see. Precisely so you'll stop looking at the thing they don't. A magician doesn't hide the coin by keeping both hands still, fleshes. He hides it by waving the other hand about very dramatically and going, Look, spaceships! Never watch the hand they're pointing with. Watch the other one. Go on, Mark. Tell them about the man who says he knows where the coin is.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

The man who says he knows. His name is David Grush, and whatever the truth turns out to be, you cannot dismiss him as a crank, because his credentials are impeccable. Grush is a decorated former Air Force intelligence officer. He worked at the highest levels, on the very task forces set up to investigate this phenomenon. He had the clearances, he was inside, and in 2023 he went before Congress under oath and said things that should have shaken the world to its foundations. He testified that the United States has been running a secret program for decades to recover and reverse engineer craft of non-human origin, that the government is in possession of what he carefully called non-human intelligence, and even, he said, recovered non-human biologics, bodies in planar language from these craft. He said he was told this by dozens of insiders with direct knowledge, whose identities he provided to the relevant inspectors and committees. He said he himself had faced retaliation for looking into it. And Grush has not gone away. Into 2026, he's still at it, now advising the Congressional Task Force directly. At a press conference on the steps of the Capitol in June, alongside a bipartisan group of representatives, he escalated. He accused the intelligence agencies, the Defense Intelligence Agency specifically, of hiding billions of dollars from Congress, of running what he called secret slush funds to finance these deeply classified programs entirely outside the oversight of the elected officials who are supposed to control the purse strings. Money, hidden from the people who approve the money, to fund programs nobody's allowed to know exist.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Now this fella I like, because he's not some bloke who saw a light over his caravan. This is an insider, a spook's spook, a man who had the keys to the building and is now standing outside it, shouting about what's in the basement. That's a different animal entirely. Flesh bags. And notice, notice what he leads with. Not the aliens are pretty, not the craft go very fast. He leads with the money, billions hidden from Congress in secret slush funds. And do you know what? Of everything in this whole episode, that's the bit I believe the most because it's the least fantastical and the most human. Whether or not there's a single dead alien in a freezer anywhere in Nevada, I can absolutely 100% guarantee you there is hidden money. There is always hidden money. We did two whole episodes on hidden money. The universe may or may not contain little gray men, but it definitely contains accountants who've lost a decimal point on purpose. Follow the money, my darlings. It never lies, even when everyone attached to it does.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

And now let's bring in to the side of this that our show is built to notice, the official response, because we are not here to sell you aliens. We're here to look at the whole board, honestly. The Pentagon's own investigative office, AARO, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, has consistently pushed back. It has stated repeatedly that in all its reviews it has found no verifiable evidence that any UAP represents extraterrestrial technology. No proof of recovered craft, no confirmation of a secret reverse engineering program. Its official histories have concluded that many of these persistent rumours can be traced to misidentifications, to classified but entirely human programs, and in some cases to circular storytelling, insiders hearing a rumour, repeating it, and it coming back around sounding like independent confirmation, and that Shadow Dwellers is a genuinely important possibility, and we won't skip past it, because there is one explanation for a great deal of this that requires no aliens at all, and is, in some ways, even more interesting. What if a huge portion of what people are seeing is ours?

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Oh now we're getting to the good bit. The bit nobody wants, because it's not as fun as Spaceman, but it's twice as sinister.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Think it through. Spent on programs so secret that their very existence is denied. This is not a theory. It's an acknowledged feature of the defence system. It's how the stealth bomber was built in total secrecy. It's how the U-2 spy plane, back in the 50s, flew at altitudes no one believed possible, and generated, not coincidentally, a huge wave of UFO sightings from ordinary people who looked up and saw something silver, moving impossibly high, that the government flatly denied was there. Because it couldn't admit the truth, so it let people think flying saucer, rather than top secret spy plane. That pattern is the key that unlocks half of this. For 70 years, the UFO myth has been the perfect cover for classified aviation. Every time you test something revolutionary, something that turns on a dime, flies without a visible engine, outpaces every known jet, the witnesses will call it a UFO, and the government gets to smirk and deny and let the tinfoil crowd take the heat, while the real secret that we built it stays buried. The aliens take the blame. And the black project stays black. So when you watch that navy footage of something impossible dancing across the sky before you reach for Alpha Centauri, you have to sit honestly with the other possibility that you might be looking at the most advanced, most secret technology on Earth, human-made, ours, or someone else's here on this planet, and that the UFO label is not the revelation, it's the camouflage.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

And isn't that a lovely thought, meat sacks? Half the aliens might just be the lads in the desert testing next year's death machines and letting you blame Mars so they don't have to fill in the paperwork. It's genuinely elegant when you think about it. You build a terrifying secret aircraft. People see it. You can't stop them seeing it. The sky's rather large. So what do you do? You don't panic. You just let the culture do your cover-up for you. You let the films and the tele and the tinfoil brigade convince everyone that a fast light in the sky means little green men. And then, when someone sees your secret plane, they don't think government black project. They think X-Files, and they get laughed at by their mates, and the secret keeps itself. You've weaponized the ridicule, you see. You made the truth sound stupid on purpose. That's not a bug in the UFO story, my darlings. For seventy years that was the feature. Carry on, Mark. Tell them about the ones with the telescopes, the ones who got sick of waiting.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

The ones who got sick of waiting. Because here's what's genuinely new and genuinely hopeful about this moment. For seventy years, the only people with the data were the governments and the militaries. If you wanted to know, you had to beg them to tell you. You were a supplicant, waiting for scraps. Not anymore, because science has entered the trap. The leading figure here is a man named Avi Loeb, a Harvard astrophysicist, a serious credentialed mainstream scientist, not a fringe figure. And Loeb got fed up. His argument is beautifully simple. Stop waiting for the government to open its classified archives. Stop begging. Build our own instruments, point them at the sky, gather open, transparent scientific data that anyone can examine, and settle the question ourselves. So he founded something called the Galileo Project, and they're doing exactly that. They've built observatories, arrays of cameras, infrared sensors, radio and acoustic detectors that scan the whole sky continuously, 24 hours a day, feeding everything into artificial intelligence trained to sort the ordinary from the anomalous. A bird, a balloon, a plane, a drone, a satellite, filtered out automatically, and whatever's left, the genuinely unexplained, flagged for study, rigorous, open, repeatable. Real science, finally, aimed at the thing science spent 70 years refusing to look at. And they're going further into exactly the territory you asked about, the satellites. Loeb's people and other researchers are studying satellite data to track anomalies from above, and even scouring the historical record for the truly strange. There's a project called Vasco vanishing and appearing sources during a century of observations that compared old astronomical photographic plates from before the first satellite ever launched against the modern sky, looking for points of light that were there once, and are now simply gone, or that appeared briefly, where nothing should be, searching a century of the heavens for things that shouldn't come and go, and finding in the pre-Sputnik plates, strange transient flashes that still aren't fully explained.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Right, this I properly respect, and you know I don't hand that out often, because this is the first genuinely grown-up idea in the whole 70-year circus. For decades the deal was the government has all the toys, all the data, all the cameras pointed at the sky, and you get to sit at home and believe them, or not. That's not knowledge, meat sacks. That's a religion. Trust us. We've seen it, we can't show you. We did a whole episode on people who ask you to just trust them, remember? Never trust the ones who won't open the box. So, along come these Harvard Boffins going. You know what? We'll build our own box, and we'll open it in front of everyone. Cameras anyone can check, data. Anyone can download AI sorting the seagulls from the genuinely spooky. That's how you get an answer that isn't just some spooks say so. And the satellite bit, looking down from orbit and digging through hundred-year-old star photos for lights that shouldn't be there. That's clever. That's really clever. Because a government can classify a file, my darlings. It's a lot harder to classify the entire sky. Go on, Mark, but tell them the catch. There's always a catch, and this one's a beauty.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

There is a catch, and it's the heart of tonight's episode. Because even with the file drops, even with the telescopes, the single greatest obstacle to the truth isn't technology. It's people. Specifically, the silence of the people who already know. Because if David Grush is even partly right, if there really are insiders, dozens of them, with direct knowledge of these programs, then the obvious question is, why don't they just come forward? All of them. Right now. If a hundred engineers and officers and contractors have touched this secret, why hasn't a hundred of them walked onto the Capitol steps and ended the debate forever? And the answer is one of the most quietly damning things about how secrets are really kept. It isn't mind control. It isn't men in black, with silences mostly. It's far more mundane, and far more effective than either. It's paperwork. And it's money. These people have signed things, non-disclosure agreements, security oaths, documents that bind them, under the Espionage Act, and a dozen other statutes, to lifelong secrecy with penalties that include not fines, but prison. To speak is not to risk embarrassment, it's to risk a cell. And then there's the softer chain, the one that doesn't need a courtroom at all. These are career people. Thirty years in the military, in the agencies, in the defence contractors. And at the end of thirty years sits a pension, a comfortable retirement, a house, a family, grandchildren, security, a whole life built on that steady income and that clean record. And every one of them knows, with perfect clarity, that the day they break their oath, all of it evaporates. The pension, gone, the clearance, gone, the reputation destroyed, the legal fees, ruinous, the rest of your life spent as the man who broke faith, hounded, discredited, possibly prosecuted.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

And there it is, you mortals. There's the real lock on the vault, and it's not laser beams, and it's not memory-wiping aliens. It's a pension, it's a mortgage, it's but what about the grandkids' Christmas? I have watched this for the whole of human history, and it never, ever changes. You don't need to threaten a man's life to keep him quiet. That's expensive and it's messy and it makes martyrs, and I end up doing paperwork. No, no. You just need to make sure he has something to lose, a comfortable something. Give a man thirty years of steady wages and a nice fat pension waiting at the end. And you have bought his silence more completely than any hit man ever could. Because now, he guards the secret. He does your job for you. Every morning he looks at his lovely retirement, and he thinks about his knees and his grandkids and his golf, and he decides, again, that the truth is somebody else's problem. It's the most reliable muzzle ever invented, my darlings, and it fits every mouth, and the beauty of it is the victim buckles it on himself. Ask yourself honestly, what would you do? You know something extraordinary. And speaking, it means losing everything you spent your whole life building, and maybe a prison cell and leaving your family with nothing. Most of you, nearly all of you, would take that secret to the grave, kiss the grandkids, and keep your mouth shut, and you'd tell yourself it was for them. That's not a conspiracy of villains, you old apes. It's a conspiracy of frightened, ordinary, decent men with something to lose. And it's unbreakable, because it's built out of love and fear, which are the two strongest ropes there are. I should know. I'm what's waiting when they finally let go of both.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

And that's exactly why the current fight in Congress matters so much, because the smartest people pushing for disclosure understand precisely what Grimm just laid out. They know the muzzle is the money and the law, so they're trying to cut the rope. That's what the proposed UAP Disclosure Act is really about, and why they keep hammering on whistleblower protections. The idea is to create a legal channel, a way for these insiders to testify without going to prison, without losing everything, sometimes in a secure classified setting first, ASCII, so they can speak freely before deciding what can be made public. Change the incentives and you change the silence. Give a frightened man a door he can walk through safely, and some of them finally will, but notice the resistance, notice how slowly it moves, notice how the agencies, according to Grush and the task force, keep failing to hand over the documents Congress lawfully requests. Notice that after the big triumphant file releases, the flow slowed to a trickle, and the promised regular updates didn't come. Notice that even a sitting president, ordering disclosure, produces somehow a set of files that answer the small questions and never quite the big one. The Machine Shadow Dwellers has a hundred ways to say yes, of course, transparency, while its hands never actually leave its pockets. Because here's what I've come to believe, watching this unfold. The resistance itself is the most interesting piece of evidence we have. You don't build a 70-year fortress of secrecy, spend billions hiding it from your own Congress, and bind hundreds of people with lifelong oaths and pensions to protect nothing. You don't fight this hard, this long, this expensively, to keep a lid on an empty box. The sheer effort of the silence is itself a kind of proof that something is under there worth all that effort. We just can't see yet whether it's a visitor from another star or the most closely guarded human secret of the age.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

That's the one, Mark. That's the thing. It's not the sightings that convince me. I've seen people mistake Venus for a Vimana. You're a jumpy species. It's the effort, it's the money, it's the muzzles, because you don't spend that much, hide it that hard, and frighten that many people into silence over nothing, flesh bags. Nobody guards an empty safe with their life. So whatever's in there, and I genuinely don't know if it's a spaceman or just the most embarrassing, most powerful human secret ever kept. It's something, something big enough that the most powerful institutions on Earth would rather look guilty and cagey for 70 years than let you have a proper look. And that, my darl, is the most honest thing I can tell you tonight. I can't tell you what's in the box, but I can tell you from the size of the lock that the box is not empty.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

So, fairness, as always, because the whole point of this show is that we don't just tell you what you want to hear. Here's the sober case, and it deserves respect. It is entirely possible that there are no aliens in this story at all. That the non-human craft are misidentified classified drones and foreign adversary technology, that the recovered bodies claims are, as the Pentagon suggests, circular rumors that fed on themselves for decades. That the black budget secrecy is real but protects entirely earthly programs, the next stealth aircraft, the next spy platform, and that the UFO cover is doing exactly the job it was always designed to do. That David Grush is a sincere man who was told things by other sincere men who were themselves mistaken. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and as of tonight, that final, undeniable, hold it in your hands proof has not been shown to the public. That is the honest, hard-nosed truth, and anyone who tells you that aliens are confirmed is selling you something. But here's the reframe, and it holds. Even if you throw out every single alien claim, even if it's all, every bit of it, human, you are still left staring at something profound. A secret so large it's been hidden from Congress. Billions in unaccountable spending. Hundreds of people bound to silence. A 70-year campaign to make the curious look insane. Technology, at minimum, so advanced that its own government won't admit it exists. Strip away the little grey men entirely, and what remains is still a conspiracy, a real, documented, ongoing one about who is allowed to know what and who decides. And that, whether the pilots are from Zeta Reticoloi or Area 51, is the actual story. It was never really about the aliens, it was always about the secrecy. So what do you do with this Shadow Dwellers as we bring it back to Earth? You watch this moment carefully, because you are living through something genuinely historic. The slow, grinding, half-willing crack in a wall that stood for three generations. And you keep your eyes on the right things. Don't just gulp at the shiny videos they release. Ask what sits in the files they didn't. When they declassify a hundred documents, ask about the thousand they kept. When an insider speaks, don't ask is he crazy? Ask what would it cost him to lie and what would it cost him to tell the truth. And you'll usually find the truth tellers are the ones with everything to lose. And support the two things that are actually prying this open. The independent scientists building their own eyes on the sky, who need no government's permission, and the legal fight to unbuckle the muzzle so the people who know can finally speak without losing their lives to do it. Because the lesson of tonight isn't that aliens are coming. The lesson is about the machinery of a secret, how it's really kept. Not with lasers and mind wipes, but with oaths and mortgages and the quiet, universal human fear of losing what you've built. They didn't silence a generation of witnesses with threats. They did it with pensions, and the day that stops working, the day telling the truth, costs a person less than keeping the secret, is the day the wall finally comes down. Our job is to help build a world where the truth is the cheaper option. Do that, and disclosure takes care of itself.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Right, you curious little moats of dust on a rock spinning through the dark. Last thought, and it's a big one, so gather in. You spend your lives desperate to know if you're alone out here. It's one of the oldest aches you've got. And the joke, the real cosmic punchline, is that the thing standing between you and the answer isn't distance, and it isn't the aliens being shy. It's a filing cabinet, it's a signature on a form. It's a frightened man with a good pension and thirty years of service deciding, every single morning, that the truth is too expensive to say out loud. The greatest question your species has ever asked, and it might be locked in a drawer in Virginia, because the only man with the key doesn't want to lose his house. That should make you angrier than any spaceship, Meat Sacks. Not that the universe kept a secret from you, but that a few of your own did, and priced your wonder at less than their retirement. So keep asking, keep looking up, build your own telescopes, and be the kind of person who'd tell the truth even when it cost you. Because heaven knows the world's short of them. Keep your tinfoil dry and your eyes on the sky, you glorious lonely little mortals. Something's up there, might be them, might just be us wearing a very good disguise. Either way, I'll get the full guest list eventually. I always do. Sweet dreams.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

This has been The Disclosure Machine, an episode of the Evident Conspiracy Files. The files are dropping, the scientists are watching, the whistleblowers are testifying, and somewhere a great many decent frightened people are sitting on the answer to the oldest question we've got, held in place not by ray guns, but by a mortgage and an oath. Maybe it's craft from another star, maybe it's the crown jewels of the black budget, but the secret is real. The effort to keep it is real. And it is cracking, slowly, in our own lifetime, right now. Check out our website that is currently being improved, and soon you can select any file you like and see the evidence yourself. You can also reach the team at the ecf.co.uk, follow ecf Studios on X, leave us a review and tell us what you think is really in those files. And if you've ever looked up and seen something you couldn't explain, send it in. We read everyone. If you want more between episodes, our sister show Grim Stories is waiting in the dark, with tales even stranger than the truth. Until next time, Shadow Dwellers. Stay curious, stay sceptical, continue to question everything and keep watching the skies, and we will see you again, somewhere in time.

SPEAKER_06 41:03

Seventy years of laughter Then the files dropped. What's still in the drawer?

SPEAKER_02 41:32

You were the joke, this foil had a career over man in the great club. Then the Pentagon put the files on the public stuff, but school system open building people logging in overnight videos, the public style flying everything. We got instant acceleration, the wings, no expensive file.

SPEAKER_05 44:15

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SPEAKER_00 45:09

We all send you our best, and to the staff, from the paramedics, to the ICU surgeons and nurses at Great Western Hospital Swindon in Wiltshire. Thank you. Thank you for all you've done and will continue to do.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

And just to be clear, he's not thanking the corporation that's charged for on-site parking over the last couple of weeks. Hundreds of pounds for visiting the genuinely ill. It's sick. You will get a slow service from me that you can be sure of. Get well soon, little mayhem. It's not your time yet. Thank you again for listening. We will catch you again next week.